NY pistol license holders must apply for concealed carry
The Claim: The New York State Pistol Licensing Office has announced that all pistol licenses are now concealed
Among the Supreme Court’s paradigm-shifting rulings in June was the overturning of a New York law that required “just cause” to carry a handgun.
A new law proposed in light of the decision came into force on September 1. It includes new requirements for concealed carry permits and prohibits firearms in “sensitive” public places. People with guns can only take them to private businesses with their permission.
Amid confusion and legal challenges in response to the law, a social media post purported to show the New York State Gun Licensing Office in Oneida County announcing a series of licensing changes .
“ALL NYS gun licenses are now concealed, no matter what’s stamped on the top or back,” read a portion of the August 19 Facebook post that has been shared more than 700 times in just over 100 people. one week. “NO NYS gun license holder NEEDS to make a special trip to the gun licensing office for this to happen.”
The message went on to claim that sports licenses no longer exist and that law enforcement personnel would be considered “Unrestricted – Concealed Carry”.
But the Oneida County Pistol Permit Licensing Office said it issued no such document, and experts and government officials said the new law does not enact changes claimed in posting on Facebook. There is still a standard process for obtaining a concealed carry permit, and the new law does not affect the status of old licenses, officials said.
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USA TODAY has reached out to the user who shared the complaint for comment.
Oneida County office says document ‘did not come from this office’
There is no statewide “pistol licensing office”, and the New York State website indicates that pistol licenses are issued by county.
Oneida County has a gun permit licensing office, but Deputy Gun Licensing Officer Dan Sullivan told USA TODAY that the document did not match the office letterhead and that the information included “did not come from this office”.
And the claims in the document are false, according to officials and legal experts.
Janine Kava, spokeswoman for New York Governor Kathy Hochul, told USA TODAY that the law “did nothing to change the status of pistol licenses issued prior to this date.”
A document issued by the New York State Police says those who received a concealed carry permit before September 1 have until August 31, 2023 to recertify their status.
Andrew Lieb, a New York civil rights attorney, said the document’s content did not conform to the wording of Senate Bill S51001. He added that the claim that pistol licenses would automatically become concealed carry permits is “perhaps the No. 1 fallacy”.
Under Section 400 of the state’s criminal law, as stated in the bill, candidates must complete a 16-hour classroom course and a two-hour live firearms safety training course. hours before obtaining or renewing a concealed carry permit.
Other claims are also false
The document’s claims about sports licensing and law enforcement are also wrong.
The New York Department of Environmental Conservation still requires sport licenses for people who want to hunt, fish or trap in the state, contrary to what the post claims. The ministry announced Aug. 3 that hunting and trapping licenses were on sale for the 2022-23 season, and the website to purchase them was still active as of Sept. 26.
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A document on the department’s website also notes that the new law “does NOT affect how legal hunting can take place in New York.”
Although members of law enforcement are exempt from the ban on carrying weapons in sensitive locations, Lieb said they are still required to apply for concealed carry licenses. This directive was taken up by the New York State Police on August 27.
Lieb noted that the word “unrestricted,” as mentioned in the Facebook post, does not appear in the bill.
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Warren Eller, an associate professor in the Department of Public Management at the City University of New York’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, agreed that the document did not align with the new law.
Our opinion: False
Based on our research, we rate the claim that the New York State Pistol Licensing Office has announced that all pistol licenses are now concealed as FALSE. The Oneida County Pistol Permit Licensing Office said it did not post the document in the Facebook post, and experts and government officials said its claims were false.
Our fact-checking sources:
- Andrew Lieb, September 16, phone interview with USA TODAY
- Janine Kava, September 15, email to USA TODAY
- Warren Eller, September 15, phone interview with USA TODAY
- Dan Sullivan, September 12, phone interview with USA TODAY
- New York State Senate, Accessed September 23, 2022, Item 400
- New York State, accessed September 5, Applying for a Firearms License
- New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, accessed September 5, Sports Licensing
- New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, September 1, Frequently Asked Questions Regarding Recent Changes to New York State Gun Laws
- New York State Police, August 30, Frequently Asked Questions Regarding Recent Pistol/Revolver Recertification Changes
- New York State Police, August 27, Frequently Asked Questions Regarding Recent Changes to New York State Gun Laws
- New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, August 3, DEC announces hunting and trapping licenses are now on sale
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